Comments for Wisdom Seekers http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com For the Lord gives wisdom, and from His mouth come knowledge and understanding. Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:28:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Koinonia and the Sacred Other by Peter Wept « Meditations from Zion http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/koinonia-and-the-sacred-other/#comment-92 Peter Wept « Meditations from Zion Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:28:32 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/?p=166#comment-92 [...] am working my way back into community, into koinonia. Will there be open [...] [...] am working my way back into community, into koinonia. Will there be open [...]

]]> Comment on Koinonia and the Sacred Other by Witness to the Light « Meditations from Zion http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/koinonia-and-the-sacred-other/#comment-84 Witness to the Light « Meditations from Zion Tue, 05 May 2009 12:32:34 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/?p=166#comment-84 [...] the last few months I’ve been really interested in the concept of the “sacred other.” It is my belief now that this sacredness is the same as the light that is within each one [...] [...] the last few months I’ve been really interested in the concept of the “sacred other.” It is my belief now that this sacredness is the same as the light that is within each one [...]

]]> Comment on To Live is Christ by Running the Race « Wisdom Seekers http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/to-live-is-christ/#comment-80 Running the Race « Wisdom Seekers Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:08:13 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/?p=171#comment-80 [...] I also shared with the group my favorite fable: The Tortoise and the Hare. Of course, this story is also about a race. And I have confessed dozens of times… I am still a hare, sprinting and wasting energy, while it’s the tortoise that knows the secret: keep on keeping on… steady and determined, persistent to the end. And what is our goal? To know Christ… to be in Christ… to be like Christ for to Live is Christ! [...] [...] I also shared with the group my favorite fable: The Tortoise and the Hare. Of course, this story is also about a race. And I have confessed dozens of times… I am still a hare, sprinting and wasting energy, while it’s the tortoise that knows the secret: keep on keeping on… steady and determined, persistent to the end. And what is our goal? To know Christ… to be in Christ… to be like Christ for to Live is Christ! [...]

]]> Comment on The Better Part by Choose the Better Part « Meditations from Zion http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/the-better-part/#comment-78 Choose the Better Part « Meditations from Zion Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:38:41 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/?p=129#comment-78 [...] more about Mary and Martha and the better part, see Wisdom Seekers discussions on the book, Having a Mary Heart in a Martha World by Joanna [...] [...] more about Mary and Martha and the better part, see Wisdom Seekers discussions on the book, Having a Mary Heart in a Martha World by Joanna [...]

]]> Comment on Fear of the Lord by Servant Leader « Wisdom Seekers http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/fear-of-the-lord/#comment-76 Servant Leader « Wisdom Seekers Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:40:21 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/fear-of-the-lord/#comment-76 [...] We talked quite a bit about the idea of “working out your salvation with fear trembling.” Until I worked more deeply on this verse, I did not realize that this phrase, although initially seems particularly apt for an individual, is really for the group… in this case, the Philippians, but just as readily for the church… or small group, etc. The entire “working out” process is communal in nature. It was interesting to do a brief review of what “fear of God” might mean to folks in the group. So many shared the experience of awe of God in nature. But none really mentioned this type of “awe” in worship or prayer. I think that is something I want to experience more. I also shared with them our previous study about the fear of God. [...] [...] We talked quite a bit about the idea of “working out your salvation with fear trembling.” Until I worked more deeply on this verse, I did not realize that this phrase, although initially seems particularly apt for an individual, is really for the group… in this case, the Philippians, but just as readily for the church… or small group, etc. The entire “working out” process is communal in nature. It was interesting to do a brief review of what “fear of God” might mean to folks in the group. So many shared the experience of awe of God in nature. But none really mentioned this type of “awe” in worship or prayer. I think that is something I want to experience more. I also shared with them our previous study about the fear of God. [...]

]]> Comment on Koinonia and the Sacred Other by Community = Church « Meditations from Zion http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/koinonia-and-the-sacred-other/#comment-74 Community = Church « Meditations from Zion Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:53:45 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/?p=166#comment-74 [...] March 1, 2009 by irmbrown Just a quick response to the sermon this weekend. As I mentioned to Craig, his points were good but I still think there is more to community than learning to love ‘annoying’ [or difficult] people, keeping our minds on straight [accepting correction from others], and bringing the world to Jesus. I am more interested now in the koinonia concepts that we have been investigating in the study of Philippians… where there is a commitment and mutual benefit… there must be give and take. See more. [...] [...] March 1, 2009 by irmbrown Just a quick response to the sermon this weekend. As I mentioned to Craig, his points were good but I still think there is more to community than learning to love ‘annoying’ [or difficult] people, keeping our minds on straight [accepting correction from others], and bringing the world to Jesus. I am more interested now in the koinonia concepts that we have been investigating in the study of Philippians… where there is a commitment and mutual benefit… there must be give and take. See more. [...]

]]> Comment on The Sacred vs. Others by Koinonia and the Sacred Other « Wisdom Seekers http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/the-sacred-vs-others/#comment-72 Koinonia and the Sacred Other « Wisdom Seekers Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:57:41 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/the-sacred-vs-others/#comment-72 [...] From verse 1, the idea that our relationship to God should really be more closely described as a “bondservant” or slave who has willingly agreed to submit to a benevolent master was striking. This is one who is solely committed, for life, to this master, willing to go where he commands, do what he demands (or needs us to do), and all the while benefiting from his protection that comes from taking his Name as our own. In verse 2, we discovered how another word complements the slave relationship and that is “the saint” … and by Paul’s use of the word, we are all saints, those of us who have accepted Christ as our savior, we are all positionally covered by the blood of his sacrifice and therefore we are “set apart,” holy, and sacred property. For me, as we talked, I became excited about the change in relationships if we treated our fellow believers as truly sacred… special, something to be protected and lovingly handled. See pre-post for more about the sacred. [...] [...] From verse 1, the idea that our relationship to God should really be more closely described as a “bondservant” or slave who has willingly agreed to submit to a benevolent master was striking. This is one who is solely committed, for life, to this master, willing to go where he commands, do what he demands (or needs us to do), and all the while benefiting from his protection that comes from taking his Name as our own. In verse 2, we discovered how another word complements the slave relationship and that is “the saint” … and by Paul’s use of the word, we are all saints, those of us who have accepted Christ as our savior, we are all positionally covered by the blood of his sacrifice and therefore we are “set apart,” holy, and sacred property. For me, as we talked, I became excited about the change in relationships if we treated our fellow believers as truly sacred… special, something to be protected and lovingly handled. See pre-post for more about the sacred. [...]

]]> Comment on The Sacred vs. Others by Irmgarde Brown http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/the-sacred-vs-others/#comment-71 Irmgarde Brown Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:35:36 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/the-sacred-vs-others/#comment-71 Actually, I believe my discovery was that we would treat others equally... for they are both valuable and precious but for different reasons. We don't know what's in the heart of the other, that's the point. And when we think we do, I think we often slide over into "judgment" ... again, remember our prayer, abounding love in knowledge and "depth of insight" ... this is where we learn how to respond to others, both believers and non-believers. If you treated a non-believer as "sacred" ... would that be such a bad thing? That may be the very thing that "finds" him/her. Actually, I believe my discovery was that we would treat others equally… for they are both valuable and precious but for different reasons. We don’t know what’s in the heart of the other, that’s the point. And when we think we do, I think we often slide over into “judgment” … again, remember our prayer, abounding love in knowledge and “depth of insight” … this is where we learn how to respond to others, both believers and non-believers.

If you treated a non-believer as “sacred” … would that be such a bad thing? That may be the very thing that “finds” him/her.

]]> Comment on The Sacred vs. Others by Brian http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/the-sacred-vs-others/#comment-70 Brian Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:24:48 +0000 http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/the-sacred-vs-others/#comment-70 But, even still, how can we identify who is a believer and who is a nonbeliever? Yes, we should treat a believer as sacred, and a nonbeliever as captive or lost, but how can we distinguish in the first place which is which? Aren't the requirements for salvation to confess with your tongue and believe in your heart (Romans 10:10)? So, then if this is how one becomes set apart how are we able to know what is in their heart? We may be able to hear a person's confession or see their good works but are we ever able to see their heart or is that something only God can do (1 Cor 4:4:)? I'm not trying to start a big debate, I'm just curious. Thoughts? But, even still, how can we identify who is a believer and who is a nonbeliever? Yes, we should treat a believer as sacred, and a nonbeliever as captive or lost, but how can we distinguish in the first place which is which? Aren’t the requirements for salvation to confess with your tongue and believe in your heart (Romans 10:10)? So, then if this is how one becomes set apart how are we able to know what is in their heart? We may be able to hear a person’s confession or see their good works but are we ever able to see their heart or is that something only God can do (1 Cor 4:4:)? I’m not trying to start a big debate, I’m just curious. Thoughts?

]]> Comment on About Wisdom Seekers by Melinda Parsons http://wisdomseekers.wordpress.com/about/#comment-69 Melinda Parsons Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:01:07 +0000 #comment-69 Hi, I'm a retired art historian trying to assemble an art exhibition for Lent for my church, Wallingford Presbyterian (www.wallingfordpres.org). I love the image accompanying "Mary's Extravagant Love" and would like to include it. Is that permissible, and if so, whom should I credit? Just the URL for the blog? It's a gorgeous image! If I can include it in the show, is there any higher resolution image of it available? It will just be shown for a week in the narthex of the church and will not be reproduced in any publication. Look forward to hearing from you, and great blog! Melinda Hi,
I’m a retired art historian trying to assemble an art exhibition for Lent for my church, Wallingford Presbyterian (www.wallingfordpres.org). I love the image accompanying “Mary’s Extravagant Love” and would like to include it. Is that permissible, and if so, whom should I credit? Just the URL for the blog? It’s a gorgeous image! If I can include it in the show, is there any higher resolution image of it available? It will just be shown for a week in the narthex of the church and will not be reproduced in any publication. Look forward to hearing from you, and great blog!
Melinda

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